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PostPosted: October 14, 2018, 10:36 pm 
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I've got a Honda CX650 that I've decided to build into a "what if the Japanese had built Morgan 3-wheelers instead of the British?" or a Morganori or call it what you will. I'm looking for suggestions for front suspension kits. My requirements are:

a) light weight
b) disc brakes
c) ball joints
d) cast not billet

I'm trying to maintain the look of components that might be produced in the mid 50's to 60's were they actually built.

I like the VW Type 1 ball joint spindle/disc brake kits. The Mustang 2 kits are okay, but may be a bit heavy. I've also considered MG Midget spindles and rotors to accommodate wire wheels. Each of these have their own pros and cons. What do you think? What cars have I overlooked?


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PostPosted: October 15, 2018, 1:11 am 
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I'd guess you're going to end up with british knuckles for the look you want. Japanese started using struts early, and most other available knuckles will be as big or bigger than pinto. RX7 maybe?

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PostPosted: October 15, 2018, 8:35 am 
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The Brits typically use Cortina or Triumph spindles on their Morgan replicas. Here in the USA, I would look at some of the ATV spindles/disc set-ups. DaveW


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Agree with Davew on checking out atv sources. You mentioned light weight and then expressed a desire for wire wheels. A little contradiction there. The V-dub parts you mentioned may be your best shot. Years ago, my Dad built a VW based Bugatti kit-car using Karman-Ghia underpinnings. He managed to find wire wheels that were a bolt-on to the K-G hubs.


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PostPosted: October 15, 2018, 1:21 pm 
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Thanks for the comments. By light weight, I just meant, don't point me to a set of Buick disc brake conversion spindles because they are cheap or something. Both the MG and VW spindles will support wire wheels and they are both lighter than the Mustang spindles and certainly than the rotors and calipers in that setup.

ATV parts won't have the strength or they are billet and the wire wheel options are probably nonexistent.

I'm really interested in cast spindle/disc brake options from smaller passenger cars. The RX 7 is a new option I hadn't considered. Any other ideas?


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Chevette 4lug /fiero 5 lug which are used on many dwarf legend bec cars with datsun b210 hubs. 2 bolt ubj, press in lbj.
Miata is another light option.
rx7 has struts but could be modified to fit a ubj and probably a good choice with a skinny wire wheel for minimal scrub.
Most triumphs have trunions rather than lbjs.

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PostPosted: October 16, 2018, 10:57 pm 
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Fiero sounds interesting. Anyone know if this is really $500 for the entire front suspension/steering/brakes?

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That is $500 just for the left spindle. There is nothing wrong with used spindles as long as there is no wear on the spindle from the bearing trying to seize and spinning from lack of mx. They make new, lightweight fabbed chevette spindles for dwarfs at about $130 each.

I suggest you locate a junkyard with an 84-86 fiero to source the spindles with all the brake hardware. Should cost $50-100 for both sides combined and they will likely torch them off for you (cutting the control arms).

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Sure looks like the full knuckle-hub rotor and caliper in the pic. I think the pic is deceiving. I agree with MV8. I think it is just the spindle casting that hey are selling. You might want to verify that with the seller if you think otherwise.

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I thought you were looking for spindles but you want a complete suspension kit. I used a vw beam with drums for my trike. It will likely be too stiff but the torsion springs can be adjusted for rate by using adjusters that can load one beam while unloading the other, making it a progressive rate. viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11384

You might find this interesting also (kz1000, datsun diff upside down for fwd, custom spindles, knee shocks, 80s ford 15" aluminum spares):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-pbvUaki48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1AYuN-LR7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jieBC_bsm58


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Hi Kamakazi - What you want to do has been done before. One of the trike kits available from England is the JZR. I can use an assortment of powerplants including the CX650 - I built the second one in the US. I used Chevette rack and pinion and Pinto hubs but modified with the mounting plate of a VW Rabbit rear axle. I then bolted up complete Rabbit rear axle and complete hub assembly. I cut out the axle mount of a pair of Moto Guzzi front wheels and drilled them to fit the VW drum. This provided 4x18 rims on which I mounted motorcycle sidecar type tires. I later changed to complete pinto spindles and hubs after wrecking it slightly. Found a pair of Lincoln space saver spare alloy wheels and mounted 16 car tires on them. A lot of advice can be found in the JZR-USA web site (https://www.freewebs.com/jzrusa/), including where to find Chevette/Fiero spindles - brakes and all can be bought at your local parts house. I'm scratch building another using a Guzzi drivetrain but have a CX650 in the corner waiting for the next build. If you need any additional links or info that I could help with, please let me know.


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