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PostPosted: July 19, 2018, 11:23 pm 
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Interesting seat design/build from the master:

https://www.millerwelds.com/resources/a ... HE%20STEPS

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Pretty or not, there's no excuse today for not having head support. I get it that it's about his fabrication skills, but why not extend the seatback a bit higher? I wonder if he also recommends no seatbelts to complete the correct period look? :?

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PostPosted: July 20, 2018, 1:21 pm 
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KB58 wrote:
Pretty or not, there's no excuse today for not having head support. I get it that it's about his fabrication skills, but why not extend the seatback a bit higher? I wonder if he also recommends no seatbelts to complete the correct period look? :?


Hi Kurt.
I think you are jumping to conclusions, Maybe head support is mounted on the cage or Roll hoops.
By the way.. You should see the condition on my copy of your book..
I get to read it EVERY DAY...
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That is a much simpler design and process than his first version, which I think was for Hot Rod Magazine. Although, I think a few vertical beads and a limited set of dimples would yield a simpler, stronger seat yet.

The head rest issue that Kurt brings up is a serious one. Covell's seat could be fixed by doing the usual (for 70's era seats) by putting a head cushion on one or two "poles" attached to the seat back.

I'm facing the same situation. I know what I want, but it's a sub-project to design and build it. For me, I think it will be a Phase II project. Covell's seat isn't a bad alternative to consider for my Phase I seat, which is just something to get me going and the car on the road.

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[quote="seattletom"]Interesting seat design/build from the master:

I was attracted to the rat rod bomber seat style and watched vaious videos including this one. I found Covell's seats to be wonderful but out of my league. Then I watched a guy who made steel bomber seats in a less sophisticated way, involving cutting sheet steel, punching holes with punch and flare tools and welding. His video can be found easily. Google steel bomber making. I have done pretty well what the author demonstrated. However he used gauge 18 steel, and I regret to have done this too. I think that gauge 20 or 22 would be plenty.

My work below is still in progress, not all holes have been punched and the head rests which will be bolted separately behind the seats have not been fabbed yet. Ultimately, I will make black leather cushions and I will line various areas with black vinyl.


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PostPosted: July 20, 2018, 4:19 pm 
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ChanoquinII wrote:
KB58 wrote:
Pretty or not, there's no excuse today for not having head support. I get it that it's about his fabrication skills, but why not extend the seatback a bit higher? I wonder if he also recommends no seatbelts to complete the correct period look? :?


Hi Kurt.
I think you are jumping to conclusions, Maybe head support is mounted on the cage or Roll hoops.
ChanoquinII

I agree that overall safety can be fixed by the car builder, but it doesn't get the seat manufacturer off the hook for making something that's "trouble" by design.

And thank you :)

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@phil

I'm glad you posted your examples. Just what you have, a few beads and some dimples/flares will stiffen things up very well. I've build some things out of beaded 20 gauge and feel it's quite strong. I have some 22 gauge too, but have found it too thin, especially for amateur welding. It's easy to burn through.

I'll try to find the video you mentioned. Your seats won't be too hard to fit with headrests, I'd think.

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EDIT: Video here ==> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmN8sib1jI

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Lonnie-S wrote:
That is a much simpler design and process than his first version, which I think was for Hot Rod Magazine. Although, I think a few vertical beads and a limited set of dimples would yield a simpler, stronger seat yet.

The head rest issue that Kurt brings up is a serious one. Covell's seat could be fixed by doing the usual (for 70's era seats) by putting a head cushion on one or two "poles" attached to the seat back.

I'm facing the same situation. I know what I want, but it's a sub-project to design and build it. For me, I think it will be a Phase II project. Covell's seat isn't a bad alternative to consider for my Phase I seat, which is just something to get me going and the car on the road.

Cheers,


My own design departs a bit from this guy's below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmN8sib1jI
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