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 Post subject: Roto molded fuel cells
PostPosted: January 26, 2007, 5:18 pm 
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Are they the devil?

Nasa seems to think so. This excerpt is from their competition rules from the kitcarchallenge.com website.

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15.4.2 Rotary-molded cells
Rotary-molded cells are not allowed unless the bladder meets the current
specifications and carries the current FIA FT3 standard certification mark,
stamp. Most or all JAZ and RCI brand cells are examples of rotary-molded cells
not carry such ratings. [Notes: A good fuel cell is made by companies such
Fuel Safe (other than their entry level models), and should cost $550 or more.
of inexpensive “SCCA APPROVED” cells. While SCCA is a fine organization,
of approval found on some safety items may pertain to other forms of racing,
not be consistent with these rules. Consult an expert before purchase.]


I assumed that since my cell had foam I was OK, I guess not.
The one I purchased looks like the one in Kieth's book made by Jaz, but mine came from Summit.

I could have got a steel tank with bladder for about $60 more but it doesn't have a sump like the plastic cell and the pickup is in the corner for circle track racers. It does however have a bladder and foam.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku
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The other options like Fuel Safe etc. are just not realistic options due to their $500 and up prices. The one they make for a Caterham costs $1200.
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Does anyone know of a sub $200 metal fuel cell with bladder, foam, and a sump?

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http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/ ... 9_tank.pdf

Mfgs must apply to FIA to have their bladders tested inorder to be included on FIA's list. Bladders are only good for 5 years (without reinspection) from when it was made, not from when it was bought. Rotary molded tanks are plastic.

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Have you looked at adding a surge tank to the summit tank?

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/produc ... oduct=2538

It's basically just a plastic box with check valves and a pickup. I don't see why you couldn't make one with the proper parts. All the box need to do is have an open top and not fall apart in fuel. The check valves are basic ball valves with the 0 psi opening pressure.


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Chet,

I don't think they are the devil. The sancioning bodies do their very best to shed liability. By only allowing parts that have a certification to be used, it puts the responsibility off their back and on to the certification organization. They can show that they have done due dilligance on specing safety equipment. The certification is expensive and that gets passed on to the consumer. In many tin top race classes, it is perfectly acceptable to run the stock steel gas tank. That is no more substantial (if not less) than a plastic cell with foam.

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nkeehn wrote:
Have you looked at adding a surge tank to the summit tank?

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/produc ... oduct=2538

It's basically just a plastic box with check valves and a pickup. I don't see why you couldn't make one with the proper parts. All the box need to do is have an open top and not fall apart in fuel. The check valves are basic ball valves with the 0 psi opening pressure.


That's really cool but it costs as much as the Summit tank. :shock:

Probably less than a fuel safe tank though. I guess I'll just roll the dice with my plastic tub.

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chetcpo wrote:
That's really cool but it costs as much as the Summit tank. :shock:

Probably less than a fuel safe tank though. I guess I'll just roll the dice with my plastic tub.


I'm gonna check around and see if I can piece one together for cheap. I really don't know why they cost so much. I'll post my findings...


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