Muffler fabrication and materials
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sen2two
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Muffler fabrication and materials
I'm going to be making my own aluminum muffler to shave a few pounds. It will have a 5 inch aluminum body about 18 inches long. An entrance and exit of 3 inches. Also a three inch perforated stainless steel center tube and hopefully, if I can find them, stainless steel mesh cones. Its basically a rip off of a flowmaster Hushpower muffler. But in aluminum. Google will show a cut out of this.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe ... er+muffler
After some research, it seems the best packing I can find is called Superwool.
http://www.morganthermalceramics.com/pr ... re/blanket
This is where I found I can purchase it. But I'm unsure if its the same product since there's not much information. Has anybody used this before, and know of a reliable source?
http://www.axner.com/superwoolfiber-1th ... rsqft.aspx
Also, a preffered place to buy stainless perforated mesh tube and cones. I found a few. But just in case the knowledgeable people on here have found a better source, post it up!
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe ... er+muffler
After some research, it seems the best packing I can find is called Superwool.
http://www.morganthermalceramics.com/pr ... re/blanket
This is where I found I can purchase it. But I'm unsure if its the same product since there's not much information. Has anybody used this before, and know of a reliable source?
http://www.axner.com/superwoolfiber-1th ... rsqft.aspx
Also, a preffered place to buy stainless perforated mesh tube and cones. I found a few. But just in case the knowledgeable people on here have found a better source, post it up!
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bob
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
My last attempt at a DIY muffler was a disaster. They were stainless oval boxes and they "panned" at tickover . they cracked up over a period of time and if I revved the engine in anger the air filled with the stuffing as if someone had shot a duvet with a 12 bore shotgun . The writing you see pressed into the cases of the aftermarket units is not there for show, its actually strengthening them, I gave up and bought some after this.
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
We used stainless steel wool from McMaster.com for our race mufflers. It came in 5 lb reels.
Also had to occasionally replace the perforated core. Used SS perforated sheet (0.060" 304) from Mcmaster to fab 4" OD tube.
The case was 8" round SS 304 and lasted more than 10 years.
Also had to occasionally replace the perforated core. Used SS perforated sheet (0.060" 304) from Mcmaster to fab 4" OD tube.
The case was 8" round SS 304 and lasted more than 10 years.
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
Here's a few pointers. I have some more somewhere...
http://www.coneeng.com/index.html
http://www.headersbyed.com/hc_ventext.htm
http://www.exhausting101.com
http://www.coneeng.com/index.html
http://www.headersbyed.com/hc_ventext.htm
http://www.exhausting101.com
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
Here are a couple of other things to look at:
http://www.acsindustries.com/products/a ... fault.html
http://www.fibretech.com/microtex.html
http://www.piteraq.dk/flight/muffler.html
Baffles, tubes, inserts, etc. ==> http://www.carchemistry.com/
Cheers,
http://www.acsindustries.com/products/a ... fault.html
http://www.fibretech.com/microtex.html
http://www.piteraq.dk/flight/muffler.html
Baffles, tubes, inserts, etc. ==> http://www.carchemistry.com/
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gavin_eakins
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
Hi sen2two,
I've had great results with Acousta-fil. Not quieter, just doesn't blow out.
I used to use scrap fibreglass insulation (my Dad had a fibreglass factory). It would eventually blow out, even with (say) woven glass wrapped around the perf tube.
Acousta-fil is put in loose & it expands with heat.
Cheers - Gavin.
I've had great results with Acousta-fil. Not quieter, just doesn't blow out.
I used to use scrap fibreglass insulation (my Dad had a fibreglass factory). It would eventually blow out, even with (say) woven glass wrapped around the perf tube.
Acousta-fil is put in loose & it expands with heat.
Cheers - Gavin.
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sen2two
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
The prefforated stainless sheet metal from McMaster is more expensive than I thought. It comes in at about $50 for a piece big enough to make one muffler. I'm Making It 18" long with a diameter of 3" where the exhaust will pass through.
I might just go with a pre-made prefforated tube made for mufflers. I found these for around $40. Unless I can find a cheaper sheet metal option that dosnt involve me drilling a couple hundred holes.
I might just go with a pre-made prefforated tube made for mufflers. I found these for around $40. Unless I can find a cheaper sheet metal option that dosnt involve me drilling a couple hundred holes.
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Bent Wrench
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Re: Muffler fabrication and materials
I would not use any metal packing. I'd be real concerned about it migrating into the cylinders.
Having witnessed how pieces migrate in motor explosions,
combined with how reversion can make fuel standoff above a carb.
I would never use such a product on one of my motors...
Having witnessed how pieces migrate in motor explosions,
combined with how reversion can make fuel standoff above a carb.
I would never use such a product on one of my motors...
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