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 Post subject: Too Busy's Locost#6
PostPosted: November 20, 2023, 11:43 am 
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Hey Gang,
I'm back in the fold again. A few days ago Jason Kimble reached out to me to see if I wanted his 442 project. A couple of pics and a video and I knew I wanted it.
That night I jumped on fb marketplace looking for an engine. I was thinking Miata, MG, Austin, or Ford Duratec. Imagine my surprise and happiness when I saw a Yamaha 1250 from a Legends car as a complete run kit. Engine from top to bottom with carbs and coils. spare carbs, spare coils, fuel pump, fuel filter, aeroquip hoses, wiring, legends "red box" controller, header and 2 different resonators. Everything for a car except an oil cooler.

Now the fun begins again. I haven't decided what the end point will be and it doesn't have a timeline.
Only thing I've said is I WILL DO AT LEAST 1 THING EVERY SINGLE WEEK!!!

Meet Too Busy's Locost #6
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And before the questions begin, the blue quarter panel with chrome bumper is a 73 Stingray

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 Post subject: Re: Too Busy's Locost#6
PostPosted: November 20, 2023, 1:02 pm 
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Wahoo, TooBusy is back with a new project :mrgreen:! I can’t wait to see what you do with it. I’ve enjoyed reading and following on with your previous projects. Looking forward to this one.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Busy's Locost#6
PostPosted: November 20, 2023, 1:17 pm 
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No fair. I don't know who that is.
Was there a build topic somewhere?

I'd suggest a slant six, but that would probably be too awesome. :cheers:

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PostPosted: November 20, 2023, 8:05 pm 
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PostPosted: November 21, 2023, 10:41 am 
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A couple of years ago I was itching to build a 4 wheel IRS hot rod. Seeing this in my garage has sparked that desire again.

Would you guys hate me if I chopped up this chassis some to drop on a T body and turtle deck?
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I'd need to make some nice brackets for the front suspension pick ups to keep it from looking boxy. The Mustang II add on looks heavy / boxy. I KNOW I can do better. Some 3/16 brackets to establish mount points in 3D space welded to the primary frame rails. Use the existing Kinetic control arms from the project.
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Then to show homage to the Locost a TTL nose cone from Jack.
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A simple bonnet with no sides to connect the T cowl with the nose cone.

The Yamaha is air and oil cooled so no radiator required. Headers coming out the driver side. Velocity stacks on the passenger side.

Tell me I'm crazy; either in a good or bad way.


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Definitely 'good way'.

A T-bucket style Locost has been a recurring thought for me, although I'd probably do the little pickup bed style rather than the turtle deck. One thing that has caught my eye is that it seems the basic bucket shape could simply (albeit somewhat crudely) be incorporated from into the tube frame in basic Locost fashion... Even easier if using the later style with the more Locostish scuttle and without the prominent door height dip in side view. It could even make for some nice side impact protection if making the rolled top lip something more akin to a horizontal roll bar around the cockpit. And since it could be sized to fit, it the chassis might not even need much (any?) hacking.

But the cheap Speedway Motors one-piece floorless bodies are certainly tempting too.

Regardless, I wholeheartedly endorse this idea. :twisted:

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Definitely 'good way'.

A T-bucket style Locost has been a recurring thought for me, although I'd probably do the little pickup bet style rather than the turtle deck. One thing that has caught my eye is that it seems the basic bucket shape could simply (albeit somewhat crudely) be incorporated from into the tube frame in basic Locost fashion... Even easier if using the later style with the more Locostish scuttle and without the prominent door height dip in side view. It could even make for some nice side impact protection if making the rolled top lip something more akin to a horizontal roll bar around the cockpit. And since it could be sized to fit, it the chassis might not even need much (any?) hacking.

But the cheap Speedway Motors one-piece floorless bodies are certainly tempting too.

Regardless, I wholeheartedly endorse this idea. :twisted:


The Speedway 27 T is insanely tempting for this project.
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But also there's a glass T bucket and turtle deck with a real Ford T model chassis for sale 30 minutes from my house for less than the price of the fiberglass parts.

No doubt in my mind that a T could easily be grafted to a book chassis. The +442 not so much. The cockpit is both wider and longer than the bucket measurements. Anyone willing to do a bit of fiberglass work could halve or quarter a bucket to stretch it around the chassis though.

A few very slight mods to the chassis and side impact bars can bolt in.


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 Post subject: Re: Too Busy's Locost#6
PostPosted: November 22, 2023, 2:06 pm 
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TooBusy wrote:
A couple of years ago I was itching to build a 4 wheel IRS hot rod. Seeing this in my garage has sparked that desire again.
Welcome back to the fold! I had the same "T" itch for a long time. Considered a '27 T bucket in either a roadster-pickup version or a Lakester derivative. Either gives more flexibility in approach than a traditional turtle deck. Lower cost body shell, too.

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I called the guy on fb marketplace and made a deal on the t bucket and turtle deck. That plus a real deal Henry Ford steel model T chassis, not rusted out with running board outriggers, headlight brackets, crossmembers, and a steel cowl all for $600. I can't complain about the price. The guy is super cool. He's had t buckets for 40 years including a 7 second 1/4 blown big block dragster.

The plan is coming together...

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Wow, sounds like a great deal. Looking forward to seeing how this comes together. Sounds like a fun project.

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I picked the body and 23t original frame up today. Lots of life has been in the way the past couple of weeks since I made the deal on it.
Anyway, drove the pickup to Graham, tossed the bits in the back and headed home.
Wifey Dearest helped me get it unloaded and I tossed the body on the build table to help me visualize.
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Then a few minutes removing bolt on parts from the 7 chassis and it was time to attack it with the sawzall.
35 minutes later it looked a lot less like a car than when I started.
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Then slip the body onto what remains to see how much more 7 comes off before I start building things back.
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People who complain about no foot room in a 7 have never sat in a T Bucket.


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Might have to change your name to TooEasy.....


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It would be practical to get the strength back into the chassis by cutting the body down the center to widen, so a backbone frame/trussed or shear panel tunnel can be installed. Much stiffer than just adding 2x3 rails.

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Very cool! When I was 1st out of high school and working at the Pontiac Dealer, a friend of mine in the body shop had a classic T w/350/T350. Was very twitchy driving down the road with the hairpin front suspension. An IRS front/rear like FFR is doing with their 34 style roadster is a much more drivable car.


I think the Lotus nose will be really cool with the T body. Agree with MV8- tunnel down the middle, firewall hoop and dash support for upright strength should get you there. What are you thinking for a powertrain?

If you want some steel front fenders, I have a set you can have for the cost of shipping. One has a couple of 3/8" holes drilled when I 1st started to mock them up before going with the clamshells.

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"Track" style roadsters are a popular style, I've seen more than a few.

A 34 ford grill shell takes a considerable amount of horsepower to push through the air.
There is a land speed class that mandates this grill and a certain vintage of motor that is very competitive.
Other classes forsake the grill for aero....

I like the style and you can see more examples by looking at land speed cars and old track cars.

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