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Author: | GonzoRacer [ March 10, 2017, 12:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
Yo! Westside! Thought I'd stop by and trashy up the place a bit... That Ford "Five-Oh" is a good engine. Lotsa torque, good power. I'm lovin' mine. All three of 'em so far... Now that I've actually "built" a motor instead of stuffing a used one in there, I think we're gonna have some good times with it. The T-5 isn't bad, really. It's no top loader, durability and overall strength wise, but it doesn't take arms like PopEye to shift it either. Interesting idea, a "rally locost". No reason it can't be done and it ought to be a potent machine with light weight and the V8 power. Modifying the "usual" suspension design for the ground clearance and travel might take some re-design of the front end, but nothing you can't figure out. In the rear, it sounds like you're using an 8.8 stick axle from an Explorer. Is that right? In the Slotus, everything in the front except the steering rack is aftermarket Mustang II parts. Modified the LCA's to have heim joints instead of bushings. Most of the other bits are just bolt-ons. You are correct, there's plenty of choices from the street rod community. I'll be watching your progress, this should be an interesting build! Good luck with it! Oh, by the way, before too much longer, somebody is gonna say, "Pictures, or it didn't happen!" JDK |
Author: | horchoha [ March 10, 2017, 1:07 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
Welcome aboard, yes, I like pictures, lots of pictures |
Author: | davew [ March 12, 2017, 10:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
Jordan Some sexy brackets My guess is that you will be able to align your brackets, a hell of a lot easier mounting them on the under side of the rails. A straight shot with an alignment rod. Dave W |
Author: | jimzagg [ March 14, 2017, 7:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
Jordan, I'm Likin' Your Build. It's important to fit and be comfortable. With the offset axle just offset the engine to the passenger side. The 4.11 gears might be a little too much. I would think a close ratio gear set in the transmission would make it drive a lot better. The close ratio toploaders have a 2.32 first gear. That might be a good choice. How tall a tire do you plan on running? |
Author: | geek49203 [ March 15, 2017, 10:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
My thought on the T5 is that before it breaks from torque your rear tires will probably be lit up. Unless you're using wrinkle walls? Especially with a 4:10!! I'm wondering if you'll ever use those first 2 gears? From what I hear, fast shift slamming the "stop" at the end of the throw is the other issue? Did Ford go thru their "Non World Class" versus "World Class" thing like the GM/Camaro guys did? |
Author: | WestsideGarage [ March 15, 2017, 11:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
Quote: My thought on the T5 is that before it breaks from torque your rear tires will probably be lit up. Unless you're using wrinkle walls? Especially with a 4:10!! I'm wondering if you'll ever use those first 2 gears? From what I hear, fast shift slamming the "stop" at the end of the throw is the other issue? Did Ford go thru their "Non World Class" versus "World Class" thing like the GM/Camaro guys did? I'm going to have to do some homework here. My automotive hobby background has mostly been with trucks, Jeeps, and GM muscle. I tend to dodge anything made after the '70s. I'm making this up as I go along, and I'm learning a lot. It's very likely I will end up using a T-5. As far as the world class thing goes I know there's a difference between T-5's behind a 4 or 6 cylinder and the ones behind a v8. I say that from personal experience because everyone snatches up v8 t-5s from the junkyard and leaves the others. Now on line I read the difference has to do with the bearings used on the gear shafts, I've also read there is no difference at all. I have to do more homework before I spend money on a questionable transmission. I'll pick peoples brains and stare blankly at gear boxes set on cardboard at the Auto Fair at Charlotte Motor Speedway in a couple weeks. |
Author: | turbo_bird [ March 16, 2017, 12:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
The 4 cylinder T5's from Ford have a really low first gear, I think something like 4.13:1, so not really ideal for a sports car. I did find a chart at one time, might have been posted in here somewhere, that compared the various T5 versions that came in Fords, and the later V6 ones were basically the same torque ratings and gear ratios as the world class versions. I remember thinking that it would be useful to remember that tidbit because it might be an easier find in a junkyard. Kristian |
Author: | Reddragon [ March 16, 2017, 9:11 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
This may help in identifying usable T-5 transmissions. It is an article from British V-8. http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Borg- ... D-Tags.htm Red |
Author: | WestsideGarage [ March 16, 2017, 7:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
Quote: This may help in identifying usable T-5 transmissions. It is an article from British V-8. That will help a lot, thanks! I like the names of the cars in other countries; 'Panther Solo" ha what a ridiculous name for a car! |
Author: | geek49203 [ March 16, 2017, 8:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Jordan's 942e 5.0 Ford build |
The Camaro T5 has the same flange bolt pattern as the Ford, but I think that the difference is in the shaft length / pilot bearing area (maybe 5 mm difference between Chevy and Ford?). The nice part is that the tail stock puts the thing 2" rearward versus the Mustang, about where your steering wheel will be -- so no extender necessary. As you can see, the Camaro people also tilted the thing, probably for space concerns. The T5 is a lot lighter than the T6, a lot smaller, and probably considering all of the compromises, a good choice unless you're running a drag car or really intending on slamming the shifts? Here is a pic of a Camaro 60-degree V6 bell -- notice the Ford bolt pattern? Or so I'm told it's a Ford bolt pattern. Attachment: Camaro Trans bell resized.jpg
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