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 Post subject: Re: Too Busy's Mk I Mini
PostPosted: September 4, 2014, 12:28 pm 
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She should be ready to lift out.


Or unbolt the subframe and lift off the body?

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PostPosted: September 4, 2014, 1:36 pm 
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She should be ready to lift out.


Or unbolt the subframe and lift off the body?

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Everyone I talk to says it's a butt load more work dropping the subframe to get the motor out.

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PostPosted: September 4, 2014, 2:04 pm 
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Everyone I talk to says it's a butt load more work dropping the subframe to get the motor out.


I suppose if you just want the engine that might be the case. I cleaned and painted the subframe plus changed a bunch of suspension parts so it made more sense for me.

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I suppose I could do it either way as I'll be dropping the front subframe anyway. hmmmmmmmm

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A couple of hours in the garage tonight without interruptions and the engine is finally out.

From where I left of last night, crawl under the car and unbolt the U joints on the rubber couplers to the drive shafts
Not too terribly difficult, just dirty work. While I was under there, pull the shifter from the input box

Then pull the starter and alternator to lighten the load and give me some room to wiggle.

I had to remove the master cylinders to get the motor top brace out of the way.

Then unbolt the motor mounts and it's ready to pull.
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If it would only come out easily. I grabbed the hoist and went to work.
A 1000 lb static line rope tied to an exhaust bolt and the starter bolt. Start to lift, it comes straight up and..........
I can't tilt it enough to get the shifter extension box under the steering rack,

Lower it, move the rope to attach both ends on the exhaust bolts. Try again and........... nope. Still can't tilt it enough to get it out.

Lower it, move the rope to attach both ends on the front side, One on the starter bolt the other on the alternator mount. Try again and................. nope :BH: It tilts too much and I can't control lifting it out.

lower it, move the starter end of the rope to an exhaust bolt, and.............. FINALLY
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I was careful, but still banged it against the slam panel. I'm not sure how I'll get it back in without screwing up the paint.

It's beer time
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PostPosted: September 5, 2014, 8:33 am 
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Last night I thought about dropping the front subframe instead of puling the engine. Did a little crawling around underneath and it "looks" fairly straightforward with one caveat... the wet suspension.

If the wet system is toast, the car deserves a dry conversion with adjusta-ride kit. Checking for resistance to movement, it seems the wet system is working. With it sitting on it's wheels the car isn't resting on the bump stops. Both promising signs.

I grabbed a 3/4 wrench to crack open one of the fittings and it sprayed fluid quite forcefully. :o Wet system is holding pressure. That was a deciding factor not to pull the front subframe. I need to learn more about the wet suspension before I start screwing with it.


Today after work she has her first date with the pressure washer. Tomorrow I'm planning to go pick up a sheet of 16 gauge steel for making patch panels.

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Today after work she has her first date with the pressure washer. Tomorrow I'm planning to go pick up a sheet of 16 gauge steel for making patch panels.


I'm looking forward to seeing how you make the patch panels. Except for the bottom of the A pillars I bought all of mine from Mini Mania. They didn't cost much but the shipping cost was awful. As I recall, the fit was pretty good.

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Today after work she has her first date with the pressure washer. Tomorrow I'm planning to go pick up a sheet of 16 gauge steel for making patch panels.


I'm looking forward to seeing how you make the patch panels. Except for the bottom of the A pillars I bought all of mine from Mini Mania. They didn't cost much but the shipping cost was awful. As I recall, the fit was pretty good.


I've been looking at shipping costs and it's just insane from MiniMania or Mini Sport. Some things I'm pretty sure that I'll bite the bullet just for appearance sake, others I believe I can fab easily.

A lot of the patch panels look like very simple shapes. Parts with a simple bend and a flange. Even floor panel sections will be pretty easy work in my bead roller.

Also, there's a small shop in Clemson, SC called the B Hive. It's where I used to buy all my bits for the MGB and Sprite. Going to give Gordon a call and see if he keeps any Mini bits on hand.

Using him would give me another excuse to go visit my kids at Clemson. 8)

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Just called my local metal recycler to check on steel sheet. He has a STACK in good condition in the covered shed.

18 gauge steel 4x10 sheet, 2 lb/sq ft @ 35 cents/ lb

yeah, I can handle $28 plus tax per sheet.

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Went mining for rust over the weekend... found plenty. It's better than I expected and worse than I had hoped.

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Now I have to decide what to repair vs what to replace.
minimum required
patch front floors
patch rear floors
2 small patches at body seams
1 small patch to drip rail
patch spare tire well in the trunk

then the biggie
patch left side end of heel board
replace inner sill from B post to wheel arch
replace shut panel from heel board to wheel arch
replace left side companion box

Both wings have had patch panels brazed in, quite a professional looking job actually.
The right wing had a front half put on after what looks like a minor fender bender... not near the quality of work as the brazed in patches.

Both inner A panels have been patched. solid repair, no apparent issues

Right side had a bodged up repair to the floor panel. Someone welded ON a patch to the outside of the floor. it runs from the bottom of the sill almost to the center tunnel. Problem is, they didn't take out the floor which was full of pinholes. That patch has to go as part of the front floor repair.

Thankfully the toeboards look pretty solid as do the outer A panels

subframes front and rear are very solid.


Here's my dilemma. I listed the minimum up above. That would return the car to pretty dang sound.

But what I want to do is replace both front wings, nose panel, left side rear floor from cross member to heel board and left side outer sill from wheel arch t wheel arch.
I just don't know if I'm biting off more than I can chew.

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TooBusy wrote:
I just don't know if I'm biting off more than I can chew.


:lol:

Sorry, I couldn't help it. I bought a "nice" Mini about 12 years ago. I drove it for a year then decided to fix the rusty floor.

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Once I got into getting rid of the rusty panels it looked like this.

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I replaced everything forward of the firewall plus the door skins, rear valence and the battery box. It only took a couple of years, no big deal. I still have it, drove it to work yesterday. It looks like this.

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PostPosted: September 9, 2014, 11:32 am 
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Your car is a beauty. Very well done!

I'm really worried that I'm developing a 2 year case of the might as wells.

I seriously think I could fabricate and could weld in the short list of "must do's" in a weekend. Spend another 2 weekends getting it body prepped and ready to paint, then haul the bare shell and bits to Maaco for a spray job if I don't feel like doing more back yard paint work.

Then a weekend for re-assembly and I'm driving the car to Clemson in late October to a football game.

If I keep tearing $hit apart, I won't get it back together for years.

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On a upbeat note, I did just win an auction for a shrinker / stretcher set that I've been wanting. So my metalworking tool collection continues to grow. :lol:

2 mig welders, large compressor, air hammer, planishing hammer set, air die grinder, air cutoff tool, electric shears, bead roller, English wheel, shrinker / stretcher.

I think all I still need is a leather bag and a pear hammer.

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I'd vote for the homemade patch panels and Maaco paint job. If you put too much time and effort in it you won't sell it and then think of all the other cars you'll miss out on.

Besides, I want to see the metal working pictures. I'm tired of all of the suspension threads.

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Besides, I want to see the metal working pictures. I'm tired of all of the suspension threads.


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