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PostPosted: April 8, 2014, 2:38 am 
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not my car, but reasonably close, 1993 VR6 Corrado

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2006 ABZ from a vw touareg, with the two goons looking on

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bellhousing fro early 924 turbo

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transaxle from 1980 porsche 924 turbo, low mileage LSD.

the intention is to use a rear end from a Syncro passat (not quite are rare here)
graft in the transaxle connect Via torque tube to the V8 up front.

the bellhousing will bolt up, with only 1 or 2 bolts misaligned.

I have an aluminum flywheel and race clutch assembly, Ill need to find a stater that will work with both.

engine management with MS3, I'll still have to work out the dash tie ins for the speedo and tach.

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wow! sounds like a really fun proj. the touareg V8 is going up front correct?

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This looks fun. You pull this off and you will have Lord High GOD status at VWVortex! :mrgreen: Best of luck and thanks for sharing it here. :cheers:

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Hmmmm... Veeeee-Eight in a Veeeee-Dub...
Cool idea! Keep us posted on the progress, this has potential to be really a fun build and fun car.
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Might be of interest ...

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yes the idea is to have the engine up front, where it belongs, and as little cutting as possible.
I want it to look as though it was a factory option.

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well My information on the bellhousing was wrong, there are 3 bolts that line up and no more.
I think I'll have to take some careful measurements and have a 1/2" thick aluminum adaptor made up.
on the positive side, starter motor is mounted engine side, so that gives me some extra clearance for the steering rack I hadn't counted on.

Talked to the VW dealer about a starter for this engine, $500 plus $100 core charge, Ouch. Found a used one on eBay for $100
pulled the pilot pushing from the crank and installed the new extended one with a bearing, for manual conversion, bolted and torqued up the Aluminum flywheel.

doing some general cleanup while I wait for the starter to arrive. pulled the valve covers and gave them a coat of flat black paint.

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Vioala, I give you the bellhousing that does not exist.
VW has no part number for it, and no one will sell just the housing.
I managed to track down one at a parts yard in Virginia, came from a core trans that was dead, bought the whole thing and had them pull the bellhousing and ship it only.

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What do you call this nonexistent bell housing?

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What do you call this nonexistent bell housing?



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I did the same thing, automatic bellhousing.

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as far as I can tell there is no part number for it, but it is specific to the 2004-06 vw touareg V8 6speed automatic.
it is one of very few VW/Audi transmissions where the bell housing can be unbolted.
parts should all be arriving his week, so I can get to work designing the back end adaptor, and laying out the Hydraulic clutch.

I've been told that the 944 torque tube has the same spline layout as many other cars including a mid 80's mustang.
I'll need to find a clutch disc that has the spline pattern and same/similar diameter as the one that came with my aluminum flywheel set.
I already have the pilot bearing installed that matches up with the torque tube, so the rest should be a matter of careful measuring and math for the bell housing/torque tube adapter.

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so its clear to me that I'm going to need to upgrade the fuel pump for this engine swap, I've put thought into the engine trans and rear suspension Changes so far, getting a MS3 sub harness built for the engine, and hopefully muck the stock wiring up as little as possible.
but as I get closer to firing the engine, and fabricating the mounts, the engine needs to be fed.
Wondering, should I be looking for an oem pump that will swap out easy, or should I get an aftermarket unit.
if I have a custom tank built, I will attempt to reuse the stock fuel sender setup, so it will work without too much screwing around.

Stay tuned, will have pics of the flywheel/clutch solution soon, to be followed by my bellhousing to torque tube adapter.

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pulled the ring gear from my aluminium flywheel, and remachined the shoulder to fit inside the Touareg flex plate. same concept as the 034 adapter.
i'll pull it all apart and replace the main seal once I've got everything figured out.

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VW Touareg bellhousing in place, as well as the Pressure plate

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perfect fit, Hydraulic clutch assembly from a Borg Warner T5. I have the backing plate being laser cut right now, should bolt up and require maybe 1 or 2 shims to set perfect.

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ha ha, Success finally.
Porsche 944 use a 1" x 23 spline for their torque tube but uses a much smaller disc. it appears the disc that came with my kit is 24 spline and slightly less than 1"
I've been told that the 23-1 is a common setup should be easy to find the right disc for it, but its been a bit of a battle.
but the perfect combo of 235mm diameter and 23 splines is not easy to come by. mid 70's Chrysler used that setup, bu you cant get those parts, and just found out RX8 also uses that setup, which means, there re performance parts easily accessible, and eBay has provided some inexpensive but performance ready options.
now I just have to wait for my delivery to continue.

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