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Assembled press, pressed parts, disassembled press, shower, return press*, watch the refs loose the LSU game for us, and I'm home.

*I had a bad experience using a shop to press FWD bearings. I do it my self now whatever it takes... even if its a bit sleazy.

My goal for the weekend was to get it rolling chassis.

So I was like screw it, I WANT rear suspension. Buy that crap and go home.

Assembled press, pressed parts, disassembled press, shower, return press*, watch the refs loose the LSU game for us, and I'm home.

Work continues tomorrow....

*I had a bad experience using a shop to press FWD bearings. I do it my self now whatever it takes... even if its a bit sleazy.

Please don't make that a habit. I worked with a woman once who'd buy a dress, go to a party, then return it. That one habit told me more than I ever wanted to know about her. Then there was the guy who'd return his "broken" six-month old laptop to Costco, over and over. Twice a year he'd have a new laptop. Guess what, they discontinued the policy of accepting stuff back due to that crap.

Please don't. Sorry, but I had to speak my mind. On the web, silence implies consent.

Well, I missed my goal of making a rolling chassis today but just a little. FYI 15 inch alloy wheels don't fit the rear of the car

Will 16's? I hope. 17's are too big for this thing IMHO.

Pretty un eventful, just a bunch of work. Pics for your enjoyment.

-Brad

I expect the rear uprights to eventually crack from flexing.

There is a stiffener on top center. There are much stiffer DIY designs on this site. Four, .125" x .750", drilled ribs (plates down each side from uca pivot to lca pivot) could be just as light yet much stiffer.

If you don't want to strengthen it, at least keep an eye on it.

Along those lines, you could add 4 ribs from the center ring to the 3 pivot brackets. This should essentially box it all in. Ideally the lower ribs would be to the outer flange of the pivot brackets but it may break through space and not look too elegant. See the red lines. I would also add in a rib across the bottom tying the 2 lower pivot points.

To save a bit of weight you could trim the outer plate closer to the new ribs.

Pardon the aspect ratios in the picture, I just drew something based on the views I could see.

When you get to that point, I would also find a way to tie the brake caliper mounting ears to the boxed section rather than just welding them to the outer face plate.

Just a suggestion....

I expect the rear uprights to eventually crack from flexing.

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Author:	KB58 [ November 7, 2009, 11:17 pm ]
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golftdibrad wrote: Assembled press, pressed parts, disassembled press, shower, return press, watch the refs loose the LSU game for us, and I'm home. I had a bad experience using a shop to press FWD bearings. I do it my self now whatever it takes... even if its a bit sleazy. Please don't make that a habit. I worked with a woman once who'd buy a dress, go to a party, then return it. That one habit told me more than I ever wanted to know about her. Then there was the guy who'd return his "broken" six-month old laptop to Costco, over and over. Twice a year he'd have a new laptop. Guess what, they discontinued the policy of accepting stuff back due to that crap. Please don't. Sorry, but I had to speak my mind. On the web, silence implies consent.

Author:	Tralfaz [ November 7, 2009, 11:38 pm ]
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golftdibrad wrote: My goal for the weekend was to get it rolling chassis. So I was like screw it, I WANT rear suspension. Buy that crap and go home. Assembled press, pressed parts, disassembled press, shower, return press, watch the refs loose the LSU game for us, and I'm home. Work continues tomorrow.... I had a bad experience using a shop to press FWD bearings. I do it my self now whatever it takes... even if its a bit sleazy.

Author:	golftdibrad [ November 8, 2009, 9:28 pm ]
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KB58 wrote: Please don't make that a habit. I worked with a woman once who'd buy a dress, go to a party, then return it. That one habit told me more than I ever wanted to know about her. Then there was the guy who'd return his "broken" six-month old laptop to Costco, over and over. Twice a year he'd have a new laptop. Guess what, they discontinued the policy of accepting stuff back due to that crap. Please don't. Sorry, but I had to speak my mind. On the web, silence implies consent. Tralfaz wrote: Ok, I'm not like that but I felt I had good reasons. Allow me to explain. 1. I was once overcharged about 20 bucks at my local HF. They would not refund the money to my bank card, and to file a protest with the bank would mean no bank card for a week. Not acceptable. 2. My bad experience.... I had a wheel bearing go bad in the dub and went to a local shop to press it. Well, they wanted cash and little did I know it was because they wanted no record of the work. The mechanic cracked the race. When you do that... they dont make noise. I found out about this about two months later (and less than 5k miles) when I heard a horrible grinding in the front of the car. Brakes, rotor, caliper carrier, and two new tires were in order.... not to mention a new bearing, spindle, and hub. 700 dollars and I was without a car for a week. not fun. 3/4. Thats a big mofo press. I simply do not have space to store it right now. Money is also tight as I try to pay down debt and maintain a racing addiction. I figure after this Karma, HF and I are even. Next time I need a press I'll think ahead a little more or just buy it. So, take that as you will. I'm not a bad guy, just a bad-a guy.

Author:	golftdibrad [ November 8, 2009, 10:13 pm ]
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Well, I missed my goal of making a rolling chassis today but just a little. FYI 15 inch alloy wheels don't fit the rear of the car Will 16's? I hope. 17's are too big for this thing IMHO. I figured out the steering after looking at the instructions, who knew? Didn't get a chance to fab it though. Pretty un eventful, just a bunch of work. Pics for your enjoyment. -Brad

Author:	chanoquin [ November 11, 2009, 12:15 am ]
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golftdibrad wrote: Well, I missed my goal of making a rolling chassis today but just a little. FYI 15 inch alloy wheels don't fit the rear of the car Will 16's? I hope. 17's are too big for this thing IMHO. Pretty un eventful, just a bunch of work. Pics for your enjoyment. -Brad I think you better consider using wider tires...

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Author:	Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F [ November 11, 2009, 9:07 am ]
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I expect the rear uprights to eventually crack from flexing. There is a stiffener on top center. There are much stiffer DIY designs on this site. Four, .125" x .750", drilled ribs (plates down each side from uca pivot to lca pivot) could be just as light yet much stiffer. If you don't want to strengthen it, at least keep an eye on it.

Author:	rx7locost [ November 11, 2009, 10:11 am ]
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Along those lines, you could add 4 ribs from the center ring to the 3 pivot brackets. This should essentially box it all in. Ideally the lower ribs would be to the outer flange of the pivot brackets but it may break through space and not look too elegant. See the red lines. I would also add in a rib across the bottom tying the 2 lower pivot points. To save a bit of weight you could trim the outer plate closer to the new ribs. Pardon the aspect ratios in the picture, I just drew something based on the views I could see. When you get to that point, I would also find a way to tie the brake caliper mounting ears to the boxed section rather than just welding them to the outer face plate. Just a suggestion....

Author:	golftdibrad [ November 24, 2009, 1:06 am ]
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Well, I think I'm close to connecting the steering wheel to the front wheels. Got my adapter fabed up with the help of a friend and it just kisses some frame. After some work with the flap wheel it should fit fine. sorry no pics today -Brad

Author:	golftdibrad [ November 24, 2009, 1:18 am ]
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote: I expect the rear uprights to eventually crack from flexing. There is a stiffener on top center. There are much stiffer DIY designs on this site. Four, .125" x .750", drilled ribs (plates down each side from uca pivot to lca pivot) could be just as light yet much stiffer. If you don't want to strengthen it, at least keep an eye on it. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll add it to the list. Like the front LCA pick up has already had issues on some cars. rx7locost wrote: Along those lines, you could add 4 ribs from the center ring to the 3 pivot brackets. This should essentially box it all in. Ideally the lower ribs would be to the outer flange of the pivot brackets but it may break through space and not look too elegant. See the red lines. I would also add in a rib across the bottom tying the 2 lower pivot points. To save a bit of weight you could trim the outer plate closer to the new ribs. Pardon the aspect ratios in the picture, I just drew something based on the views I could see. When you get to that point, I would also find a way to tie the brake caliper mounting ears to the boxed section rather than just welding them to the outer face plate. Just a suggestion.... Thanks for the info!

Author:	golftdibrad [ November 30, 2009, 3:42 pm ]
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I think i may have the brakes figured out. Such a basic thing... run a hydraulic system. But then you have different flares, an to brake to pipe thread adapters, one end standard the other may be metric... wow. For you guys building though..... I got this from an ebay seller. http://www.longacreracing.com/catalo...d=551&catid=18 available in -3 and -4. I priced some parts out and it seems like a pretty good deal. Now just to figure out what adaptor fitting I need and the rear and order that from summit.

Author:	cheapracer [ December 15, 2009, 7:18 am ]
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote: I expect the rear uprights to eventually crack from flexing. . Holy crap, all the time I was looking at them I thought they were just templates for alignment and the 'real' ones get fitted later!

Author:	Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F [ December 15, 2009, 9:00 am ]
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Your right, it does look like a well made template.

Author:	golftdibrad [ January 23, 2010, 12:44 pm ]
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I have too many wheels in my garage....

Author:	cheapracer [ January 24, 2010, 6:12 am ]
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That is one ugly Exo - not sure how the same company can make the beautiful Sonic and this?

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Author:	KB58 [ January 24, 2010, 12:04 pm ]
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If you redesign the rear uprights, consider mounting the outboard end of the shock directly to the upright. That gets rid of all bending loads on the lower arm and bearings.