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PostPosted: January 23, 2016, 8:10 am 
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I was thinking of using Mustang II spindles for the huge aftermarket support and ease of installation, but I've seen posts saying they are too tall for smaller wheels. Not sure I will ever use smaller wheels, but it might be a consideration.


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PostPosted: January 23, 2016, 8:16 am 
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They came with 14 inch wheels.
I'm not familiar with the posts about smaller wheels not fitting.

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I have a Turismo that has been converted to RWD. Unfortunately, I was even less informed then as I am now...
The welder that volunteered his services (it was a church youth group project) was used to building rat rods and not as much with some of the other stuff. His idea was to simply turn the entire front subframe around to make it front steer and give room for the oil pan.
That car still sits next to my garage the way I picked it up from him. It will all need to be redone. Another long term project that may never get finished. It does have a shortened 8 3/4 under it... Probably too narrow for a Locost.


That can be made to work. The rack would have to be flipped upside down for right hand drive or replaced with a front steer rack. The caster may be acceptable depending on the fore-aft position of the subframe. The hub may not be centered over the lbj.

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PostPosted: January 23, 2016, 12:15 pm 
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The post about the Mustang II spindles was talking about 13" wheels for auto cross. Shouldn't be an issue for me. All of the 13" Mopar wheels I have are SBP. :lol:

I think the Locost will be done long before the Turismo.
When I bought the Mitsubishi Challenger it put the Turismo on the back burner... Waaay back! :lol:

I found a nice, small manual rack in a Porsche 924 in the local pull a part. I think it's still laying around somewhere... :roll:


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You don't have to turn the whole front suspension around, just swap spindles and change rack to front steer.

This will work even with strut suspension.

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Bentwrench, that would be true only if there is no caster built into the upright.

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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
Bentwrench, that would be true only if there is no caster built into the upright.


Caster has nothing to do with the spindles.

The only possible problem would be if the spindle has lead or trail built in. (If the bearing axis was ahead of or behind the steering axis) (I believe this is uncommon)

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Yes, the centerline of the hub does not always fall on a straight line between the ubj and lbj.

That is frequently built into the spindle/upright on fwd cars. I explained that before if you'd bother to read it.

You said he had nothing to worry about. That blows your credibility.

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There was an old Direct Connection K member kit sold for people converting the Turismo type cars to RWD for drag racing. It required you to swap the spindles side to side for front steer and use a Dakota rack & pinion.

I don't recall if the "kit" changed anything reference caster, Ackerman, etc. I do seem to recall that it pushed the lower control arm pivot points further out.

When my friend turned the front subframe around on my Turismo he welded it back in so that it sat at the same plane as before. I never checked the way it turned or how the wheels angled. We never hooked up the steering. I questioned the way it was done after reading a couple books on suspension geometry, so the project got pushed aside for another day. That was several years ago and the car still sits next to the garage,... waiting patiently...


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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
Yes, the centerline of the hub does not always fall on a straight line between the ubj and lbj.

That is frequently built into the spindle/upright on fwd cars. I explained that before if you'd bother to read it.

You said he had nothing to worry about. That blows your credibility.


Maybe he was assuming that since most of the control arms around these parts are scratch built, the angle built into the uprights could be corrected when the knuckles are flipped.

I know I've only been around for a little while, and my presence has not been nearly as helpful as yours has been in the past years.. but maybe try and be a bit more amicable/ less smug? The last couple posts of yours I've read have held a pretty negative connotation.

community is small enough as is! :cheers:

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If i recall correctly the kit included a pair of grand caravan knuckles for the 5x41/2 bolt pattern. A friend of mine was parts manager of one of the area mopar dealers and ordered the kit to see what was actually involved so we could do it. He was very familiar with mopar parts and told me that they were grand caravan knuckles in the kit. The kit was made for the daytona which is a g body not the turismo which is an l body like the 4 door omni and the rampage/scamp and charger. Check out turbo dodge forums and turbo mopar for a bunch of rwd conversions.


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I had pulled the information and posted it somewhere in my Turismo 225 thread on slantsix.org several years ago. Two deployments and 10 years makes the memory a bit hazy. :lol:


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1055 wrote:
try and be a bit more amicable/ less smug?


I will if you will. You can pm me if you'd like an explanation, but it serves no purpose to discuss it in this topic.

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Formerly rear steer Corolla, now front steer. BTDT!
(Bump steer and ackerman corrected)

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Formerly rear steer Corolla, now front steer. BTDT!
(Bump steer and ackerman corrected)

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Is that a pushrod 3.0? If so, coo. I guess to most people the dohc duratec would be even cooler though. I thought I was the only one on the planet that would swap the pushrod 3.0 into something else. I also used Corolla struts for the spindles of my locost. Cut the tubes off, welded in a cap, and swapped the steering arms for front steer, then cut and welded them to fix the Ackerman, as well as shorten them a bit for quicker steering.
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