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PostPosted: November 22, 2016, 4:59 pm 
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So I cannot figure out where my math is going wrong on chassis rigidity test. All I am trying to do is figure out the lbs/deg.

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http://waset.org/publications/3660/the- ... nt-formula

A load of 316lbs was applied 53" from the fulcrum and the dial indicator moved .3" here is the setup (this isn't the chassis under test though).

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Torque (L*w) would be = 53" (4.416ft) * 316lbs = 1395ftlbs
Angle archtan(w/L) = tan-1(.3/4.416) = .0678
Torsion = T/Θ = 1395/.067 = 20575ftlbs/deg

Am i missing another dial indicator?? Or am i really screwing up the units?


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PostPosted: November 22, 2016, 5:27 pm 
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.3"/53" in angle calc if you measured deflection at point of load application


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JonW wrote:
.3"/53" in angle calc


not following...

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you used .3 inches/ 4.416 feet


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JonW wrote:
you used .3 inches/ 4.416 feet


right! but that makes the chassis even more rigid @ 279000ftlbs! It doesn't add up...

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no, angle is factor of 12 greater thereby reducing stiffness to 4301 ft-lb/degree


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bahhhh still not following.

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wait my calculator is in radians!! damn it fancy calculator!

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You can't divide inches by feet. If you're doing ft-lb/deg, you need to convert your .3" into feet, then try again.

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Driven5 wrote:
You can't divide inches by feet. If you're doing ft-lb/deg, you need to convert your .3" into feet, then try again.


so 4305 isnt right?

Angle archtan(w/L) = tan-1(.3/53) = .324
Torsion = T/Θ = 1395/.324 = 4305ftlbs/deg

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Yes, inches and inches works for the degree calculation too. It's just easiest to not make mistakes if your work is all in the units of measure used by your desired output.

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Correct or have the calculator set up wrong. Now I just need the simulation to match what we just measured in the real world.

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mjalaly wrote:
Correct or have the calculator set up wrong.
...Or both. :cheers:

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Cool the chassis we tested ended up having a torsional rigidity of 2480ftlbs/deg.

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Did you apply the loads and constraints through the coilover mounts?

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