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PostPosted: February 13, 2020, 3:01 pm 
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
Yes it is! You've set the bar high. Anybody who puts that much effort into a build table should have a great build. Considering your knowledge of wood, I'd be surprised if you didn't have any in the build. It is morgan inspired. Maybe a deep clear epoxy exotic veneer dash?

Can you post bigger pics? 800x600 works really well.


LOL...Yes a clear epoxy exotic veneer dash is on the list. Some kink of burl I think?
try this way
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PostPosted: February 14, 2020, 7:29 am 
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THREE WHEELER FRAME IS COMING TOGETHER
The Morgan 3 wheeler is coming together. Got a lot done today. It is looking more and more like a finished frame.
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PostPosted: February 14, 2020, 2:24 pm 
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It's looking good! It would look even better if you attached photos the old-fashioned way instead of linking them through Photobucket. If you search the word "photobucket" on this site, you'll find associated words like "fiasco" and "shenanigans" and "blurry" and "watermark", all in all it is not a preferred format for locostusa.com and your pics are so pretty, we'd hate to lose them.

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You take good pics. To post pics directly, use the upload attachment section below the text of the post to be submitted by selecting the file then use the add button below the file.

You could reduce the weight and make it stiffer and stronger by framing directly between nodes (suspension load points from control arms and coilovers) to the backbone/tunnel as primary structure, then adding just the bodywork framing needed and some minor crash/parking rash/bumper protection but it looks like you are already following a specific plan.

If you tack everything in instead of fully welding as you go, it is much easier to make changes if you happen to paint yourself into a corner.

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PostPosted: February 15, 2020, 5:42 pm 
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
You take good pics. To post pics directly, use the upload attachment section below the text of the post to be submitted by selecting the file then use the add button below the file.

You could reduce the weight and make it stiffer and stronger by framing directly between nodes (suspension load points from control arms and coilovers) to the backbone/tunnel as primary structure, then adding just the bodywork framing needed and some minor crash/parking rash/bumper protection but it looks like you are already following a specific plan.

If you tack everything in instead of fully welding as you go, it is much easier to make changes if you happen to paint yourself into a corner.

I'll try that with the photos. It will have coilovers front and back. And anything I'm not 100% on is tacked in, or just not installed yet. As it sit now, I think it weighs about 50-60 lbs, just a guess from picking it up. Going threw today and tomorrow finishing, and cleaning up welds. Then shoot some etching primer on it.

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PostPosted: February 16, 2020, 4:05 am 
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Working on setting some nuts into the frame for the front crossbrace. Made up the frames for the rear swingarm section, And cut floor templates.

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I like to weld in blind nuts too. Curious about the wood template. I guess you are going to lay up a carbon pan?

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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
I like to weld in blind nuts too. Curious about the wood template. I guess you are going to lay up a carbon pan?


It's actually plastic cardboard, and I'm going to use them to trace onto aluminum diamond plate(preferred) or plate aluminum, depending on availability.

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The diamond plate won't lay flat to the tubes without grinding and will be much heavier since it only comes in heavier gauge than what is normally used for flooring. I suggest aircraft spruce at FFC (day trip since shipping is awful and get rivets while you are there). They usually have the best prices.

Cut it even with the out board edge then roll the thinner sides around the bottom to hide the corner. .050 3003 sides and/or .080 full soft 6061 bottom (fit heal boards so no oil canning or flex where you step in and out). Probably cheaper than your local steel supplier who probably get his metals from ATL or consider .050 steel for about $50 for a 4x8 sheet and no heel boards needed.

May want to limit the floor to the inside so water at the rear doesn't drain down to the foot well and use separate pieces at the rear if you want an aero underbody.

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360LA 442E: 134.5x46x15
Lotus7:115x39x7.25
Tiger Avon:114x40x13.3-12.6
Champion/Book:114x42x11
Gibbs/Haynes:122x42x14
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
The diamond plate won't lay flat to the tubes without grinding and will be much heavier since it only comes in heavier gauge than what is normally used for flooring. I suggest aircraft spruce at FFC (day trip since shipping is awful and get rivets while you are there). They usually have the best prices.

Cut it even with the out board edge then roll the thinner sides around the bottom to hide the corner. .050 3003 sides and/or .080 full soft 6061 bottom (fit heal boards so no oil canning or flex where you step in and out). Probably cheaper than your local steel supplier who probably get his metals from ATL or consider .050 steel for about $50 for a 4x8 sheet and no heel boards needed.

May want to limit the floor to the inside so water at the rear doesn't drain down to the foot well and use separate pieces at the rear if you want an aero underbody.


I understand the extra work, and is why I also am considering the sheet aluminum. Using body adhesive to seal it to the tubing, and using aluminum boat trim on the corners.

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Working on cow and stationary portion of rear deck
Working on cow and stationary portion of rear deck.

Using 1/2 x 1/2 16 gauge to form these two sections, Made a quarter round to form the corners, and welded together.

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Verifying measurements
Verifying seat height measurements, dash height, and cockpit area, before I continue. I know the cardboard looks cheesy, But, I LOVE IT!!!


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Looks good. I can see the flow without the CAD. I like the removable cowls. Don't forget to add diagonals at the ends of the tunnels. While a 3 wheeler doesn't twist the chassis like a 4, it will be much stiffer and stronger if you add a little tubing at the firewalls.

You need to slow down. Your making us old guys look bad. :cheers:

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360LA 442E: 134.5x46x15
Lotus7:115x39x7.25
Tiger Avon:114x40x13.3-12.6
Champion/Book:114x42x11
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
Looks good. I can see the flow without the CAD. I like the removable cowls. Don't forget to add diagonals at the ends of the tunnels. While a 3 wheeler doesn't twist the chassis like a 4, it will be much stiffer and stronger if you add a little tubing at the firewalls.

You need to slow down. Your making us old guys look bad. :cheers:

Well, I'm officially a senior citizen today....
But I will be adding diagonals with pillow block bearings inside the tunnel. it is only tacked right now.
Plus solid plate accrossed the front and large square at the rear of the cab.


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Well, I'm officially a senior citizen today....


Welcome to the club. :cheers:

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Lotus7:115x39x7.25
Tiger Avon:114x40x13.3-12.6
Champion/Book:114x42x11
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