LocostUSA.com

Learning how to build Lotus Seven replicas...together!
It is currently March 29, 2024, 1:17 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: May 29, 2021, 8:38 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: November 12, 2008, 6:29 am
Posts: 3567
Had a good find today for a project I am working on, and most projects into the future.

I have wasted countless hours looking for a good bush for control arms and trailing arms over the years, there is so many of them, but the car manufacturers seem hell bent on not using a standard sized tubing for the casing, it's like it's written law, and that's the issue, the casing.

Well, here is an answer for many, the Isusu DMax, which is also known as the Chevrolet Colorado (and Holden), 2004 to 2012, 2WD upper control arm bushes. It's on the harder side for performance for most of our lighter vehicles.

My tube here is stock 48mm x 2.5 wall, but you could grab 1.9" or 2" tube, with thicker wall and turn the inside to size, easy job. Also note that a World standard for scaffolding tube is 48mm x 3.2 wall.

My tube is only a light hammer tap fit, which is too loose, but after welding it into place, it should shrink it the casing to a press fit. Hope it helps someone :-)

PS: (rounded)
32 = 1.25"
43 = 1.7"
45 = 1.77"

Attachment:
bush.jpg


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29, 2021, 11:11 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: July 17, 2008, 9:11 am
Posts: 6414
Location: West Chicago,IL
Hey Cheap, I got nothing. I just wanted to say that I noticed that it's been over 2 years since your last post. Welcome back! We missed you. At least I did.

_________________
Chuck.

“Any suspension will work if you don’t let it.” - Colin Chapman

Visit my ongoing MGB Rustoration log: over HERE

Or my Wankel powered Locost log : over HERE

And don't forget my Cushman Truckster resto Locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=17766


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29, 2021, 1:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: November 12, 2008, 6:29 am
Posts: 3567
My wife misses me as well, but as I'm getting older I am getting slower to duck, was close last time...


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 29, 2021, 3:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: December 17, 2010, 1:24 pm
Posts: 1580
Location: Gainesville, Mo.
cheapracer wrote:
My wife misses me as well, but as I'm getting older I am getting slower to duck, was close last time...


Bah-Rump-Bump!!! :D :D :D

_________________
Mike - Read my story at http://twinlakesseven.blogspot.com/


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 30, 2021, 8:36 am 
Offline
Automotive Encyclopedia
User avatar

Joined: December 22, 2006, 2:05 pm
Posts: 8037
Currently rather expensive at $15/pair for one uca.
I've yet to find anything more cost effective than triumph spitfire sets in nylon for $45 for eight bushes with inner sleeve; enough for four control arms. Can't make them that cheap with the cost of nylon and steel. Original replacement spitfire bushes cost less than the nylon. These are the bushes spec'd in the Champion book.

Pipe is another source for matching shell ID to available bushing stock without turning.

_________________
Miata UBJ: ES-2074R('70s maz pickup)
Ford IFS viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13225&p=134742
Simple Spring select viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11815
LxWxHt
360LA 442E: 134.5x46x15
Lotus7:115x39x7.25
Tiger Avon:114x40x13.3-12.6
Champion/Book:114x42x11
Gibbs/Haynes:122x42x14
VoDou:113x44x14
McSorley 442:122x46x14
Collins 241:127x46x12


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 31, 2021, 3:04 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: November 12, 2008, 6:29 am
Posts: 3567
Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
Currently rather expensive at $15/pair for one uca.
I've yet to find anything more cost effective than triumph spitfire sets in nylon for $45 for eight bushes with inner sleeve; enough for four control arms. Can't make them that cheap with the cost of nylon and steel. Original replacement spitfire bushes cost less than the nylon. These are the bushes spec'd in the Champion book.

Pipe is another source for matching shell ID to available bushing stock without turning.



I can't find your detailed post on this with pictures, giving bush sizings, what size tube to use etc.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 31, 2021, 8:10 am 
Offline
Automotive Encyclopedia
User avatar

Joined: December 22, 2006, 2:05 pm
Posts: 8037
Probably next your details on Chinese cv half shaft specs I asked for a few years ago? :lol:

Wanna trade? I doubt it.

_________________
Miata UBJ: ES-2074R('70s maz pickup)
Ford IFS viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13225&p=134742
Simple Spring select viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11815
LxWxHt
360LA 442E: 134.5x46x15
Lotus7:115x39x7.25
Tiger Avon:114x40x13.3-12.6
Champion/Book:114x42x11
Gibbs/Haynes:122x42x14
VoDou:113x44x14
McSorley 442:122x46x14
Collins 241:127x46x12


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 31, 2021, 3:48 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: February 8, 2007, 4:20 am
Posts: 335
Location: British Columbia, Canada
I used Energy Suspension part number 9.9107G. These bushings fit perfectly inside a 1.5” OD, 0.120” wall DOM tubing, and use a 1/2” bolt.

_________________
Photo gallery of my completed Locost:
https://plus.google.com/photos/10397358 ... banner=pwa


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 31, 2021, 4:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: November 12, 2008, 6:29 am
Posts: 3567
mainlandboy wrote:
I used Energy Suspension part number 9.9107G. These bushings fit perfectly inside a 1.5” OD, 0.120” wall DOM tubing, and use a 1/2” bolt.


Cool bananas, good info, thanks.

I need to use 'off the shelf' production bushes because I will be making a few hundred of them, and they need to be able to be sourced and purchased with ease both now, and later on.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 31, 2021, 9:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: July 17, 2008, 9:11 am
Posts: 6414
Location: West Chicago,IL
Cheap, following mainlandboy's post, I found this page listing all of their universal parts by size. it may help you find one if his part number is not to your liking.

https://www.energysuspensionparts.com/e ... shings.asp

_________________
Chuck.

“Any suspension will work if you don’t let it.” - Colin Chapman

Visit my ongoing MGB Rustoration log: over HERE

Or my Wankel powered Locost log : over HERE

And don't forget my Cushman Truckster resto Locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=17766


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: May 31, 2021, 10:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: February 8, 2007, 4:20 am
Posts: 335
Location: British Columbia, Canada
cheapracer wrote:
mainlandboy wrote:
I used Energy Suspension part number 9.9107G. These bushings fit perfectly inside a 1.5” OD, 0.120” wall DOM tubing, and use a 1/2” bolt.


Cool bananas, good info, thanks.

I need to use 'off the shelf' production bushes because I will be making a few hundred of them, and they need to be able to be sourced and purchased with ease both now, and later on.


I suspect that the Energy Suspension universal bushings will be available off the shelf for a very long time, perhaps longer than OEM replacement bushings for a specific car make/model.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Photo gallery of my completed Locost:
https://plus.google.com/photos/10397358 ... banner=pwa


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: June 1, 2021, 11:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: November 12, 2008, 6:29 am
Posts: 3567
mainlandboy wrote:

I suspect that the Energy Suspension universal bushings will be available off the shelf for a very long time, perhaps longer than OEM replacement bushings for a specific car make/model.


Well the ES bushings ain't now, and I suspect they never will be in Asia, Europe, UK and Australasia :-)

Anyway, good thread, I know people do get headaches looking for bushing answers, and it's not a competition, everyone benefits from the input :-)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
POWERED_BY