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PostPosted: December 6, 2023, 11:29 am 
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... Here is an example of an old South Bend lathe that's in my area. I sent an e-mail to the guy, but haven't heard back from him. Perhaps it's sold?...

I found the best situation is a machine shop selling off manual lathes and mills (as they transition to CNC). Sure, they've probably lead a long tough life, but I got a 14x30 Takisawa lathe for $1500 from a shop in Vista. Getting the 2,500 lb thing home was another matter. Since then, I learned that heavy equipment trailers can be rented, where the bed lowers to the ground while remaining level. Between that and pipes, you can move it yourself (assuming you own or rent a truck of course).

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PostPosted: December 7, 2023, 4:00 am 
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
The problem with single phase to three phase output converters is they either include a generator to provide power which makes them much more expensive but you can run multiple appliances without matching the load or they are passive, supplying three phases during starting only and relying on two phases to run with reduced hp output and must be matched to the rated output, with one for each appliance.


A way to solve both your issues may be to find a VFD, and while you will have to size it to the job, it will not only go from single phase to three phase, but you'll also be able to modulate your motor speed.

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Thanks. That would be a practical way to do it considering VFD for this would only be about $120. The "problem" is I now realize this $800 (without VFD), 600 lb Clausing has less low speed torque than a new, $700, 280lb HBF drill press. They are both 1.5hp but the Clausing is wired to turn 850 rpm in low speed with 1/2-3/4 hp produced and resultant torque multiplied by 5.66 (fine for a drill press). However, by comparison, I could buy a new HBF 20 inch with a 1.5hp, 1720 rpm motor and turn 180 rpm for 9.55:1 torque multiplication.

While the VFD could be used to reduce rpm but the torque would also be reduced. If using pulleys, the reduction increases torque.

I could reduce the rpm further with a pulley change or some machining of the existing pulleys. I see these hbfs for sale cheap sometimes. The HBF has quill sideplay adjustment. It appears they can be wired for 220 or 115 single phase.

It appears the bigger craftsman presses have an arbor between the chuck and the spindle to adapt a morse taper to the j33 chuck taper. I hope those that come with the arbor are all drilled for a drawbar. If not, I'm sure I could have it drilled.

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PostPosted: December 7, 2023, 12:05 pm 
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Lonnie-S wrote:
... Here is an example of an old South Bend lathe that's in my area. I sent an e-mail to the guy, but haven't heard back from him. Perhaps it's sold?...

I found the best situation is a machine shop selling off manual lathes and mills (as they transition to CNC). Sure, they've probably lead a long tough life, but I got a 14x30 Takisawa lathe for $1500 from a shop in Vista. Getting the 2,500 lb thing home was another matter. Since then, I learned that heavy equipment trailers can be rented, where the bed lowers to the ground while remaining level. Between that and pipes, you can move it yourself (assuming you own or rent a truck of course).


Thanks for the tip, Kurt. That sounds like a good strategy.

I did connect with the South Bend guy and I'm going to see it tonight. It's a beast at 2,700 lb., so a machinery mover would be a requirement for me.

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PostPosted: December 8, 2023, 3:02 am 
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Here is the steering wheel that I went with, 320mm Momo Race.
Got the button from the bay.


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PostPosted: December 8, 2023, 11:27 am 
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Very fancy, Tibor.

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Just for closure's sake, that South Bend is 105" long. :ack: In the spot I have available for it, it would block 2/3 of my small garage access door. She's a no-go. :cry:

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tibimakai wrote:
Here is the steering wheel that I went with, 320mm Momo Race.
Got the button from the bay.

Lovely!

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Lonnie-S wrote:
Just for closure's sake, that South Bend is 105" long. :ack: In the spot I have available for it, it would block 2/3 of my small garage access door. She's a no-go. :cry:

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Consider an ancient Atlas or Craftsman "hobby" lathe. Typically come with 110 1 phase and very large swing and a wide range of lengths to fit your space, much lighter to transport, cost much less, and a big step up over the hbf lathes in cutting ability. I'm starting to look for one. Picking up a large drill press today. :cheers:

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360LA 442E: 134.5x46x15
Lotus7:115x39x7.25
Tiger Avon:114x40x13.3-12.6
Champion/Book:114x42x11
Gibbs/Haynes:122x42x14
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:
Lonnie-S wrote:
Just for closure's sake, that South Bend is 105" long. :ack: In the spot I have available for it, it would block 2/3 of my small garage access door. She's a no-go. :cry:

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Consider an ancient Atlas or Craftsman "hobby" lathe. Typically come with 110 1 phase and very large swing and a wide range of lengths to fit your space, much lighter to transport, cost much less, and a big step up over the hbf lathes in cutting ability. I'm starting to look for one. Picking up a large drill press today. :cheers:


This Atlas/Craftsman series is in my list. However, after spending two days looking at what's available for the South Bend series of lathes (parts, accessories, tooling, videos, etc.), they are top of list right now. Even WWII era lathes can be supported.

Good luck with your drill press.

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Here is the steering wheel that I went with, 320mm Momo Race.
Got the button from the bay.


That is so nice! It's going to need a sun/dust/rain cover!

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I will come up with something for sure.

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