A Strictly Touring 1984 V6 ranger based Locost 7

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Re: A Strictly Touring 1984 V6 ranger based Locost 7

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Thank you both for the input.
I was referencing the methods used by the Sunbeam Alpine folks who have done the conversion by turning the shaft. Turning down a bronze bushing is a much better answer.
The Ranger V6 pilot bushing specs are; Bore=0.5933", Outer Diameter=0.8268", Width=0.591".
The 1985 Mustang; Bore=0.6733", Outer Diameter=1.45", Width=0.688"
The machined bushing would have a wall thickness of 0.1535". Over 1/8" might be enough.
Rockauto has the Mustang bushings for $3.35 each.
I've wanted to buy a metal lathe for a while now. :)
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1/8" wall would be fine.

The rollers, oddly, are usually *much* cheaper than oilite bushings. Heck, I have sealed ball bearings on my pedal pivots, mostly because they were less than 75 cents each to my door, vs. $~5-ish each for plastic bushings from Lowes...
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STranger 7 wrote:
I've wanted to buy a metal lathe for a while now. :)


So, you're going to stupidly spend money to buy a lathe just to make one little bush?

Alright! This is why we have these forums, because we understand!
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It looks like the Ford 2.3 had a 0.827 OD pilot bushing as well. People have put a V8-based T5 up to a 2.3 by using a specific pilot bushing. I've found two sources listed (Motion Dynamics and Rapido), but no part numbers. Motion Dynamics is apparently gone. Rapido has a web site and phone number, you can give them a call and see if they have what you need.
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I want a lathe and mill bad too! I've looked at the Smithy combo and Grizzly stuff. I keep my eye on the estate sales for metal working stuff - hard to find!
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cheapracer,
Yeah, I agree. Spending money to buy a lathe just to make one little bush would be totally mental.
On the other hand, it would also be handy for custom rollers to fit that Harbor freight tube bender, or bead roller. Anvils for a planishing or helve hammer or English wheel. Etc,etc, etc.... Like I said, been thinking about buying one for a long time.
I find them used on Craigs list, within 150 miles, all the time. This weeks special;
lathe,01.jpg

$750.00


Laminar,
That pilot bearing shown in the link works when using a 4cyl T5 with a Lima 2.3L.
the V8 T5s have a larger end on the input shaft
t5-identifier-5,17,18.jpg

The ends for the I4s are .59. The V6 and V8 ends = .668.
The lengths of the input shafts change from I4 = 7.41", V8 (pre-1994) = 7.18", to V6 and V8 after 1994 = 7.85"

I'll be ordering a couple 5.0 bronze bushings and a ranger V6 pilot bearing. I'll take take them to one of the local machine shops and see what they say.

RandyBMC,
The weekly special,
lathe,02.jpg

Good reviews on this model. to change speeds, the drive belts need to be moved to different pulleys. 150rpm low speed.
After some research, I found that a lathe with the features to do all I hope to do will cost closer to $3000.00. Oh well...


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Too bad I live in Colorado!
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STranger 7 wrote:Laminar,
That pilot bearing shown in the link works when using a 4cyl T5 with a Lima 2.3L.
the V8 T5s have a larger end on the input shaft


No, they're specifically talking about mating a V8 T5 to a Lima 2.3. There are no online catalogs that I could find that list specs or part numbers for that specific bushing, only forum posts saying to call and order. Call Rapido and see what they say. People sometimes swap out the Merkur's T9 for a V8 T5 and need that specific bushing.
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Laminar,
I'll give it a closer look. Thank you!
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I mean, you should still probably buy a lathe :P
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Laminar wrote:I mean, you should still probably buy a lathe :P

Fur sure, Ron :thmbsup:

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STranger 7 wrote:I've wanted to buy a metal lathe for a while now. :)
Ron


I went with the G0602 about a year and a half ago and haven't regretted it since. Its a very nicely sized machine for a guy in a garage and what we do. There are a few similar models with a few more bells and whistles (Precision Matthews 10x22 or 10x30) but if you are on the fence the Grizzly is a great priced machine to start with. The only thing it needs is a quick change tool post. If you order an additional tee-nut and the correct metric tap, you won't need a mill to make the tee-nut fit the compound feed.
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STranger and Laminar,

A standard, sealed radial ball 6202 (with the prefix of your choice/mfg) is typically used to fit the 2.3 lima T5 to a 302 flywheel/crank. Not sure how close it is to a proper fit but it is commonly used.
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Miatav8,MstrASE,A&P,F wrote:STranger and Laminar,

A standard, sealed radial ball 6202 (with the prefix of your choice/mfg) is typically used to fit the 2.3 lima T5 to a 302 flywheel/crank. Not sure how close it is to a proper fit but it is commonly used.


That's the wrong way. He wants a V8 T5 to fit up to a Lima crank.
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